The Four Wards Podcast - Episode 550: Twenty Questions with UnkleKrisko

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Welcome to the Four Wards Podcast. Hey, what's up? It's Eric Bra, voice of Draven Jerks and Velcas. [00:00:13] Speaker B: And you're listening to the Four Wards podcast here to help you move forward in league. Hello and welcome to episode 550 of the Four Wards podcast. I'm your host as usual. I'm Jack Sohman and I've got with me one other ward this week. It's Mike of many names. [00:00:49] Speaker A: I'm not Pillow. [00:00:50] Speaker B: No, you're not. Unfortunately, Pillow is swamped with work and couldn't make it tonight. So we reached out to our patrons and Uncle Chrisco has joined us tonight. [00:01:00] Speaker C: Hello, I am also not Pillow. [00:01:02] Speaker B: It's true, he's not. We checked. Guys, we are the Four Awards podcast. We have a discord. Come join the Discord. Come hang out. Come play games with us. We've been having normal games most nights. Either normals or there's been a lot of Aram mayhem. It's a lot of fun. [00:01:18] Speaker A: It's just one of the best things they've made. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Link is in the episode description. Come have fun with us. We also do stream on Twitch. I can be found at Twitch tv, Jackselman Mike can be found at Twitch tv, Mike of many names and he's not being crushed by work. Pillow can be found at Twitch tv, Pillow Pet, and of course shout out to our patrons Codex Ninja, Pillow, Pet, Labana, Uncle Chrisco himself and Skippius Esquire for supporting the podcast at the Shout out tier. We appreciate you guys. Now if you want to join the Patreon and maybe get a chance to join in when we do fun like this episode. But realistically, just support the podcast. $1 a month tells us that you love us. $5 a month gets you an exclusive feed of some behind the scenes audio of our prep work before each show. Sometimes it's literally like two minutes long, sometimes it's half an hour. It just varies from week to week. And then $10 a month gets you that same exclusive feed. And we will shout your name out during the intro of every episode for as long as you maintain your subscription. And all of those benefits apply to our general gaming podcast as well. Check out From 8 Bit to 4K on Apple Podcasts spot wherever you get your podcasts. Last but not least, listeners, we're not going to be answering questions this week because we're going to be asking them. I'll get to that in a moment, but we need more questions from you. I want you to write in to the4wards podcastmail.com with your questions so we can answer them on the show. So what we're doing Tonight for episode 550 is We Are going to play a game. We are going to play 20 questions, League of Legends edition. And what that means is each of us is going to pick a champion, an item or an NPC on Summoner's Rift or one of the other maps, and we are going to then ask yes or no questions of each other to try to figure out what it is. And the winner is going to be whoever's picks need the most questions to actually have it be guessed. We're going to go around a couple times till we decide. That's enough. And that'll be the episode. So, Mike, have you thought of other objects to kick us off? [00:03:24] Speaker A: I've thought of a thing. But first, I think before we go, there are some basic questions I need to ask Chrisco just as a general basis here. [00:03:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:03:32] Speaker A: Hey, Chrisco, how long have you been playing league? [00:03:35] Speaker C: It's a little weird. Technically, I've been playing for like five years, but really only seriously this last year. [00:03:43] Speaker A: So you are very, very new. So that does narrow things down. I'm not going to try and do things with classic for you. [00:03:49] Speaker C: Okay, That's. Yeah, yeah. I started playing like, when arcane came out, and I tried it for like a month and found it impenetrable. And then once a year, every year, I came back and tried again. And then this last October, it finally stuck. [00:04:06] Speaker A: What was it that got you to stay playing Aram? [00:04:09] Speaker C: Mayhem. [00:04:10] Speaker A: Oh, shit. That's awesome. [00:04:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's so much fun. [00:04:14] Speaker A: And then just a fun baseline question. What's your favorite champion in position? [00:04:19] Speaker C: Skarner in the jungle for sure. [00:04:21] Speaker B: So you're a Captain Flowers fan. [00:04:24] Speaker C: If I knew who that was, I [00:04:25] Speaker A: probably would be not on the pro scene either. Okay. You're in it for the fun of the game. [00:04:29] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Captain Flowers is a North American League of Legends shoutcaster who is very, very upfront about his adoration for the champion Scarner. It is his favorite champion. [00:04:40] Speaker C: Fantastic. By far. [00:04:41] Speaker A: All right. [00:04:42] Speaker B: He's also one of the best shoutcasters in the entire industry. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's great. Okay, well then if I'm going to be kicking things off. Yeah, I have. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Do you have a thing? [00:04:54] Speaker A: I have picked my thing. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Okay, Chris, go. Do you want to kick us off for questions? [00:04:59] Speaker C: Sure. Let's get the easiest out of the way. Is it a champion? [00:05:03] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Okay, so it is a champion. Is it a male champion? [00:05:09] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:11] Speaker C: Is it A AD champion? [00:05:13] Speaker A: No. [00:05:14] Speaker B: Okay. Is it a melee champion? [00:05:17] Speaker A: No. [00:05:18] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:19] Speaker C: Just knowing you, I'm gonna male. I'm gonna not ad shoot one off the dome. Is it Malzahar? [00:05:24] Speaker A: No. [00:05:25] Speaker C: Okay. [00:05:25] Speaker B: Okay. Does this champion use mana? [00:05:30] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:31] Speaker B: Okay, let me see. So male, ranged, Not AD uses mana. [00:05:37] Speaker C: Are they a mage? [00:05:40] Speaker A: No. [00:05:41] Speaker C: Okay. [00:05:42] Speaker B: Is it Rakan? [00:05:43] Speaker A: No. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Damn, I thought I had it. [00:05:47] Speaker C: Are they mid lane? [00:05:50] Speaker A: No. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Is this a support? [00:05:52] Speaker A: Yes, sort of. [00:05:56] Speaker C: Are they. Is it also in the jungle? [00:06:00] Speaker A: Yes. [00:06:01] Speaker B: Okay, so we got support and jungle, not a mage. Ranged champion. Who the fuck. [00:06:09] Speaker A: I'm wondering if Chrisco's got this. [00:06:11] Speaker C: I have something in mind. [00:06:13] Speaker B: I cannot think of a champion that is a jungler, that is ranged and is also support. Unless you're trying to say Ivern. [00:06:23] Speaker A: Yes, it is Ivern. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Ivern is not a fucking support. He is a jungler who plays a supportive role. He is an enchanter. Jungler. He is not a support. [00:06:35] Speaker A: That's why I said yes, kind of. [00:06:38] Speaker B: You get 12 points. Chrisco, do you have something in mind or do you want me to go next? [00:06:43] Speaker C: I've got something in mind, yeah. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Okay, let's go with Chrisco, then. I'll kick it off. Is this an item? [00:06:51] Speaker C: Kind of. [00:06:52] Speaker B: What? How is. How is an item a kind of what? [00:06:57] Speaker C: Is that your second question? [00:06:58] Speaker B: No. No. It's Mike's turn to ask a question. These are only yes or no questions. I'm just confused at the kind of. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that does confuse things a little bit. Oh, I'm going to do a weird shot in the dark here because of the yes kind of. Is this Calista's spear? No. Okay. [00:07:16] Speaker B: Okay. Is this a complete item, as in something that does not build into anything else? [00:07:25] Speaker C: Yes, it does not build into anything else. [00:07:28] Speaker B: Okay. [00:07:28] Speaker A: Oh, you weren't around for that. I can't ask that question. That doesn't matter. [00:07:31] Speaker B: You were gonna ask about the hex core, weren't you? [00:07:34] Speaker A: No, I was. I was going to ask about the legendary system that things used to be, if this would have been considered that. But he's. He wasn't around for that. [00:07:40] Speaker B: That's why I clarified complete item instead. [00:07:43] Speaker A: Is this item worth more than 2,000 gold? [00:07:49] Speaker C: Oh, that's rough. [00:07:51] Speaker B: I would say question. Answer. Can use the wiki to answer your question. [00:07:55] Speaker A: I will rephrase the statement. Can you purchase this item for more than 2,000 gold? [00:08:00] Speaker C: No. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Okay. All right. [00:08:02] Speaker B: Is this item available on Summoner's Rift? [00:08:05] Speaker C: No. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Is this a boots item? [00:08:08] Speaker C: No. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Is this item available in arena? [00:08:12] Speaker C: Yes. [00:08:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:08:14] Speaker A: Is this item available in Aram Mayhem. [00:08:16] Speaker C: Yes. [00:08:17] Speaker B: Okay, so it's available in both. That actually does narrow it down somewhat. There are some items that are exclusive to one or the other. [00:08:23] Speaker A: Oh, you're right. You're right. That changes my idea. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Oh, is this item one that comes from a quest In. In Aram Mayhem comes from a quest. [00:08:35] Speaker C: Oh, no. [00:08:35] Speaker B: So that would be something like Earth, Spatula or the other. [00:08:38] Speaker C: It does not come from a quest. No. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:08:41] Speaker A: Is this item a starter item? It does not build from anything else. [00:08:46] Speaker C: It can be in your starting loadout. [00:08:50] Speaker A: So it doesn't build from anything else, is the point here? [00:08:53] Speaker C: Yes. It does not build from anything else. [00:08:55] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:56] Speaker B: Okay. So that narrows it down to. I don't remember what any of the Mayhem starting items. [00:09:02] Speaker A: Did we actually ask if it's part of Summoner's Rift or not? Or did we just ask about Ariel? [00:09:06] Speaker B: We rolled out Summoner's Rift. [00:09:08] Speaker A: Okay. [00:09:10] Speaker B: Does this item have AD on it? [00:09:12] Speaker C: It can. [00:09:14] Speaker A: Can what? [00:09:15] Speaker C: Can I. Can I jump in here? I. I think I led you a little bit astray at the very beginning with the focus on kind of an item. It's less of an item than you guys are thinking. [00:09:27] Speaker B: What is this? [00:09:28] Speaker A: A consumable. [00:09:29] Speaker C: No. [00:09:30] Speaker B: I'm so confused. Does this item have three or more stats on can? So this would be like ability, haste, health, attack speed. Those types of stats? [00:09:41] Speaker C: Yes. [00:09:41] Speaker A: That is a weird phrase. [00:09:44] Speaker B: What the fuck? Item has varying stats in league nowadays. [00:09:49] Speaker A: Is this an item you can currently get? [00:09:51] Speaker C: Yes. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Okay. It's not something that's no longer available. [00:09:55] Speaker B: He hasn't been playing for long enough that I would think that I would even have thought of that. [00:10:00] Speaker A: No, but there's the classic mayhem where you could have gone for something like that. [00:10:03] Speaker B: True. [00:10:05] Speaker C: Huh. [00:10:06] Speaker B: Fuck. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Item has varied variable stats is the thing that's confusing me here, because I [00:10:12] Speaker B: know in arena there are several items that have adaptive force, but I don't think any of those exist in Mayhem. [00:10:19] Speaker A: And you can start with it. [00:10:21] Speaker B: What the fuck? [00:10:22] Speaker A: And it's not an item as we think of it. [00:10:25] Speaker B: I give up. I'm stumped. I don't even know what to ask at this point. [00:10:28] Speaker A: I feel like I want to do a clarification. Not a true question, but a clarification. [00:10:32] Speaker C: Yeah, go. Like I said, I'm pretty sure I led you guys astray by accident right off the bat. [00:10:38] Speaker A: By item, do you mean a equippable thing that you purchase and put in those slots? [00:10:45] Speaker C: No, that's why I'm saying I. I think I messed up on the first question. Just Because I didn't know how to answer it. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Oh, is this a scat anvil? [00:10:52] Speaker C: No. [00:10:53] Speaker A: Is this one of the rune powers that you get from, like, mayhem? Rune powers, like, the things that you. You get four of to five of the. I forget what the fuck they're called Augments. That sword. [00:11:09] Speaker C: Yes. Augments is the answer. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Okay, that is. That is a major shift in what we were thinking. [00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah. So we can try to. We can try to narrow down the Augments, but I'm documenting. No, no, no. [00:11:22] Speaker C: Augments was the answer. [00:11:23] Speaker A: Oh, it's just Augments. [00:11:25] Speaker C: It's just Augments. I wasn't going to get specific on Augments. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Okay, well, that took us 16 questions to get to Augments. I kind of want to dock you, like, four points for that one. [00:11:36] Speaker C: Yeah, that's understandable, because I think. [00:11:38] Speaker A: I think we asked very specific item questions five times. [00:11:43] Speaker C: Yes. And that's why I had to jump in and be like, I actually think I messed up. [00:11:47] Speaker A: Because we've asked about gold purchase, and we asked about, like, specific item things multiple times. I want to say. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Four. That seems reasonable. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Okay, that puts you tied with Mike. It's my turn. I've got a thing. I guess you misled us. I'm making you start. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Yeah. No, that's great. [00:12:04] Speaker C: Yeah. Very fair. Is it a champion? [00:12:07] Speaker B: No. [00:12:07] Speaker A: Is this an item only available. I should lower it down. Is this an item? [00:12:14] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:15] Speaker C: Is it a completed item? [00:12:17] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Is this an item only available in Mayhem Arena? [00:12:22] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:23] Speaker C: Is it an AP item? [00:12:26] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:27] Speaker A: Is this Wiglets Witchcraft? [00:12:29] Speaker B: No. [00:12:29] Speaker C: Okay. Thank God. That's what I was going to say. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Oh, what the hell is that called? [00:12:36] Speaker C: Does it have a quest associated with it? [00:12:39] Speaker B: No. [00:12:39] Speaker C: Okay. No quest. [00:12:42] Speaker A: Shit. I need to figure out what the fuck that thing's name is. Is this Rite of Ruin? [00:12:52] Speaker B: No. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Okay. Not the crit item. Got it. [00:12:54] Speaker B: You could have said, is this that one AP Crit item in Mayhem? And I would have accepted that and [00:12:59] Speaker A: still said no there. [00:13:02] Speaker C: I wonder, is it. Oh, what's it called? The Blossoming Sword. [00:13:07] Speaker B: Yes, it is sort of the Blossoming Dawn. [00:13:09] Speaker C: Ah, awesome. [00:13:11] Speaker A: That was nine. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Favorite Mayhem item. I only get nine points. I went with an easy one to start. [00:13:15] Speaker A: All right, it's your turn again. I have. Have a thing. [00:13:20] Speaker B: Okay. Is it a champion? [00:13:22] Speaker A: No. [00:13:23] Speaker C: Is it an item? [00:13:24] Speaker A: No. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Is it a summoner spell? [00:13:27] Speaker A: No. [00:13:28] Speaker C: Is it an NPC technically? [00:13:31] Speaker B: What? How is that technically? [00:13:34] Speaker C: All. [00:13:34] Speaker A: All things that aren't you that are objects are NPCs. [00:13:38] Speaker B: So that would include, like, Minions, monsters, neutral monsters, all of that. It would not include things like Towers. [00:13:48] Speaker A: Yes. [00:13:49] Speaker B: I'm just being clear on what NPC means because you said technically. [00:13:54] Speaker A: Because most people think npc, they do not think the Minion. They think the dude who's selling your bank items. [00:14:00] Speaker B: Okay, now I. I would include the. [00:14:03] Speaker A: The. [00:14:03] Speaker C: The. [00:14:04] Speaker B: The vendor as an npc. I would include Minions as an npc. I would not include like Inhibitors or turrets as an npc. [00:14:10] Speaker A: Yes, it is to be clear. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Okay, so it is an npc. Is it a neutral npc? [00:14:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:14:19] Speaker C: Is it an objective? [00:14:21] Speaker A: Yes. Not a major one, but yes. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Is it one of the buff camps? [00:14:28] Speaker A: No. [00:14:28] Speaker C: Is it Scuttle Crab? [00:14:30] Speaker B: No, the is not a major one, but yes, an objective. Okay, I guess the obvious question we haven't asked. Is this an NPC on Summoner's Rift? [00:14:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Okay. Not a major objective. [00:14:45] Speaker C: Is it a. Is it in the jungle? [00:14:48] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Does it still exist within League of Legends? [00:14:53] Speaker A: Not in current league. [00:14:56] Speaker C: I see. [00:14:57] Speaker A: And by current league, I mean standard Summoner's Rift that you play. [00:15:01] Speaker B: Meaning it is in classic league. [00:15:03] Speaker A: Yes. [00:15:04] Speaker B: I guess that I technically just asked a question there. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Yes. [00:15:09] Speaker C: It was a clarifying question though. Eh. [00:15:11] Speaker B: No, it counts. It was definitely a question. It's your turn, Chris. Go. [00:15:17] Speaker C: Is it? I guess for you to clarify, I was. Because I was going to ask if it's no longer available, but that you wouldn't have clarified if it wasn't. Is it one of the dragons? [00:15:27] Speaker A: No. [00:15:28] Speaker C: Okay. [00:15:29] Speaker A: I would have considered that an objective without having to clarify. Minor. [00:15:33] Speaker C: I just didn't know if there were dragons that no longer existed in the game. [00:15:37] Speaker B: So the dragon in classic League just gives gold? It's a minor objective, in my opinion. Well, that was gonna be my guess. What the fuck objective is in Classic League other than Dragon and Baron? What? What? I am confused. [00:15:55] Speaker A: I'm going to. I'm going to give you one back and. And to give you the exact same clarification. Don't think too hard on objective. [00:16:01] Speaker B: I'm still confused. I already ruled out buff camps, which is the only thing I could think of that would qualify as a minor objective within Classic League. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Go more minor. [00:16:10] Speaker B: What the fuck? Then I would have said no to it being an objective. Whatever this might be. If it's more minor than a buff camp and it's an npc. [00:16:19] Speaker A: Yes. [00:16:20] Speaker B: I'm. I'm. I have no fucking clue, Mike. [00:16:23] Speaker C: Can it be? Is it linked to a champion ability? [00:16:27] Speaker A: That is a. That is a great call. No. Okay, that gave me such a good idea For a fucking question. But I can't use it now, man, because I've just said it. [00:16:38] Speaker B: I have no fucking clue. I'm stumped. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Where are we at? [00:16:44] Speaker B: Since you gave one back, I have us at 15. [00:16:47] Speaker A: I will give you another one back. Just go. With camps, there's something that was very much fought over a lot. [00:16:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Scuttle Crab, which he already asked. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it is a camp. It is fought over a shit ton for reasons that are unknown to me, but it was always fought over. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Huh? I have no fucking clue. I give up. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Chrisco, have you played classic? [00:17:11] Speaker C: A little bit. I'm just trying to see if I can try to remember. I'm going to give it a second because what was it called? Wasn't there like a Wraiths? Are they Wraiths? [00:17:26] Speaker A: Yes. The weird list, 100% fought over from mid lane thing you did. You didn't have the fights over rates in mid lane all the time? [00:17:35] Speaker B: No. [00:17:36] Speaker A: Wow. [00:17:37] Speaker B: I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. [00:17:40] Speaker A: I. I am. This is partially because of Froggin, but I automatically remember this being fought over. He was always going over and facing off against raids for the jungle to just steal them away. So you could hit 200 by 2:20 minutes. [00:17:54] Speaker B: I mean, I remember Froggen taking them. I don't remember it being fought over. And I definitely would never have called that an objective of any kind, even a minor one. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah, that's why I just gave you straight up two back. It's like you're not thinking of this, right? Get two back. Yeah. [00:18:09] Speaker B: Okay, well I think that was 15 points with the two back. [00:18:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Chris, go. It's your turn. Come up with something better than Wraiths. Jesus. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Come up with something. [00:18:21] Speaker C: Sure. I've got one. [00:18:22] Speaker A: You've never played this. I can't do that. Damn it. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Does this thing exist on Summoner's Rift? [00:18:28] Speaker C: Yes. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Is this a champion? [00:18:30] Speaker C: Yes. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Is this a male champion? [00:18:33] Speaker C: Yes. [00:18:34] Speaker A: Do they have mana? [00:18:35] Speaker C: Yes. [00:18:38] Speaker B: Are they ranged? [00:18:39] Speaker C: No. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Okay. Male melee mana. [00:18:42] Speaker A: I don't know if you know the answer to this question. Was this champion released after 2015? [00:18:51] Speaker C: I can fact check real quick. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Please do. [00:18:53] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, no problem. You said after 2015? [00:18:57] Speaker A: After 2015? [00:18:58] Speaker C: No. [00:18:59] Speaker B: Okay, so this is a pre 2015 champion. It's an old boy and it's male melee mana user, right? [00:19:08] Speaker A: Yep. [00:19:09] Speaker B: Does this champion have healing in their kit? [00:19:12] Speaker A: Good call. [00:19:13] Speaker B: No. [00:19:14] Speaker A: Is this champion a support [00:19:18] Speaker C: technically, in the same way that ivern is technically a support? [00:19:23] Speaker B: Okay, I should have champion ad. [00:19:28] Speaker C: What was that? [00:19:29] Speaker B: Does this champion use AD to scale their abilities? [00:19:33] Speaker C: Yes. Okay. [00:19:35] Speaker A: Is this champion's primary role jungle? [00:19:38] Speaker C: Yes. Okay. [00:19:39] Speaker B: Does this champion have a point and click ability? [00:19:43] Speaker C: No. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Oh, that changes that number. [00:19:45] Speaker B: That rules out who I was thinking it would be. [00:19:48] Speaker A: Are you thinking Pantheon with me? [00:19:49] Speaker B: I was thinking Pantheon. [00:19:51] Speaker A: Okay. A support without a point and click. That's primary jungle. Primary jungle. Melee plus Mana. Primarily the jungle. Earlier than 2015. I did say earlier than. I said. I said 2015. Or after. Or after 2015. [00:20:08] Speaker B: You asked after 2015. [00:20:09] Speaker A: After 2015. [00:20:10] Speaker C: And I said yes. [00:20:12] Speaker A: So primary jungler. Sometimes a support does have mana. Does have melee. Ooh, this is. This is messing with me. Doesn't heal either. Is this champion Amumu? [00:20:25] Speaker C: No. [00:20:26] Speaker A: Oh, I thought I had that one there. [00:20:27] Speaker B: That was a good guess though. Is this champion a tank champion of some kind? [00:20:33] Speaker C: Yes. [00:20:34] Speaker B: Okay. [00:20:35] Speaker A: It scales with AD I. Wait. Most champion abilities scale with AD that may have been a trick. [00:20:41] Speaker B: No, a lot of them don't. A lot of them don't. Especially on tanks. A lot of tanks. Their abilities only scale with ap. Primary tank, like Zac, for example, only scales with ap. [00:20:53] Speaker A: The thing that. It's primarily a jungler. And sometimes a support is where I'm getting this. Because most of those champions are primary support that can jungle. [00:21:04] Speaker B: That's why Amuma was a good guess. [00:21:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Primary jungle that can support. And it doesn't have a point and click. Which means it can't be Maokai. [00:21:12] Speaker C: Correct. Does not have a point and click. [00:21:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Also healing. [00:21:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:18] Speaker A: It can't be him. I mean, I may. I might. Why am I trying to hide that name? It can't be Olaf. Doesn't work that way. Primary jungle. Sometimes support. Has this champion gotten a major rework? [00:21:33] Speaker C: Yes. [00:21:37] Speaker B: I'm racking my brain trying to think [00:21:39] Speaker A: of who that with some major rework. [00:21:44] Speaker B: Because everyone that comes to my brain has like a ton of healing in their kit. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Yeah. They either have a bunch of healing. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Duh. I know who it is. Is it Skarner? [00:21:52] Speaker C: Yes. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Okay. It just occurred to me who it was. Cuz Scar has mostly AD ratios. [00:21:59] Speaker C: Yeah. AD and hp. [00:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah. He's one of the few Tanks. That's true for. I think it's him and Sion are like. [00:22:05] Speaker A: He doesn't have healing on the kid anymore. [00:22:08] Speaker B: No, he doesn't. [00:22:08] Speaker C: He's just got shields. [00:22:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, I think we're back to Jax now. [00:22:14] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. I got a thing. [00:22:17] Speaker A: All right. I think you started the first with last one. I will start with this one. Is this an item? [00:22:23] Speaker B: No. [00:22:24] Speaker C: Is this. Is this a Champion? [00:22:25] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:26] Speaker A: Is this a female champion? [00:22:28] Speaker B: No. [00:22:30] Speaker C: Since I play lodl, I'll ask. Is this a male champion? [00:22:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:35] Speaker C: Okay, there's. [00:22:36] Speaker A: Oh, wow. That actually is a surprisingly good question. [00:22:39] Speaker B: There's several [00:22:42] Speaker C: others. Yeah. [00:22:43] Speaker A: Okay, so we know it's male. Does this Champion. No, wait, backwards. Is this Champion melee? [00:22:49] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:50] Speaker C: Is this Champion scale with ad? [00:22:54] Speaker B: No. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Is it Silas? [00:22:56] Speaker B: No. [00:22:56] Speaker A: Damn it. [00:22:59] Speaker C: Is this primarily played in jungle? [00:23:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Primarily jungler. Primarily AP Melee. AP Melee. Jungle. That's a man. Does this champion have. We'll just go healing within their kit. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:19] Speaker C: Do they use mana? [00:23:21] Speaker B: No. [00:23:22] Speaker A: Oh. Ap. No mana in the jungle. Oh, there's not many of those. [00:23:30] Speaker B: I think there's literally one. [00:23:33] Speaker A: I'm. I'm trying to remember because most of them are AD that don't use mana. Ap. No mana. This is. This is. This is actually messing with me. Can't be Shen. [00:23:47] Speaker C: No. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Because he's not primarily a jungler. [00:23:49] Speaker A: Also true. Yeah. Can't be that. [00:23:53] Speaker B: He also doesn't have healing in his kit. And in current Shen classic, Shen does. [00:23:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Can't be that. No, can't do that. That's. That's mana. That's mana. That's not Ap. Oh. Oh. Going through. This is so. It can't be Lisa. [00:24:10] Speaker C: I have a guess. [00:24:11] Speaker A: I know. Oh, It's Mordekaiser. [00:24:16] Speaker B: No. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Oh, sh. [00:24:17] Speaker C: Is it Zack? [00:24:19] Speaker B: Sorry, say again? [00:24:20] Speaker C: Is it Zack? [00:24:21] Speaker B: Yes. Mordekaiser is not primarily a jungler. [00:24:25] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry. The two of us play primarily. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Yes, but he is primarily a top. We just play him in a weird. [00:24:34] Speaker A: We're just weird. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Shall we do one more round? [00:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I do have a new thing, Chrisco. [00:24:39] Speaker B: I forgot to record how many points you got on your second round. [00:24:42] Speaker C: My second one? [00:24:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:44] Speaker C: Shoot. We can just say, like, 10 or 12. I don't know. I wasn't keeping track. [00:24:49] Speaker B: Crap. [00:24:49] Speaker A: We got that one relatively quickly. [00:24:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:52] Speaker B: We'll call it 12. That's on me. [00:24:54] Speaker A: Okay. [00:24:55] Speaker B: All right, let's do one more round. [00:24:57] Speaker A: I have my thing. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Okay. Is it a champion? [00:25:00] Speaker A: Not in the way you think. [00:25:02] Speaker B: The fuck? [00:25:06] Speaker C: Okay. Is it an item? [00:25:09] Speaker A: No. [00:25:10] Speaker B: How is. Is it a champion? Not a yes or no question. If it is a named character within the lore that is not a current champion within League of Legends, then the answer is no. [00:25:21] Speaker A: I will put this as a word. If you look on the champion page, the answer is no. [00:25:26] Speaker B: Is this a character from Arcane? [00:25:29] Speaker A: No. [00:25:29] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:31] Speaker C: Is this character playable in any game mode? [00:25:35] Speaker A: Very. [00:25:36] Speaker B: In League of Legends, the briefly mean. Mike. What the. [00:25:43] Speaker A: This will make. This will make all the sense in the world. [00:25:46] Speaker B: No, you're gonna get zero points because I'm gonna be like, no, denied. What? The is playable very briefly in legal. No, actually. What the fuck are you talking about? [00:26:00] Speaker A: Chris, go. [00:26:01] Speaker B: Do you have any idea what the hell he's on about? [00:26:03] Speaker C: My only guess would be, is it Shelly? [00:26:06] Speaker A: Oh, that is actually very good. No. [00:26:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Then I'm vetoing this because your answers make no fucking sense. [00:26:14] Speaker C: Well. Well, my other thing is if there's something that you control with, like a champion ability. [00:26:20] Speaker A: Yes. [00:26:21] Speaker B: Okay, I'm sorry. Shaco Clone or Annie or things like that are abilities, not champions. [00:26:30] Speaker A: That's why I did not say it is a champion. And I went, it is something. [00:26:35] Speaker B: Then your answer should have been no. [00:26:39] Speaker A: I will back away and redo this. Then I can remake things right now, [00:26:43] Speaker B: pick a new thing. Your answer should have been no. [00:26:48] Speaker A: Don't want to do that, because that doesn't exist anymore. [00:26:52] Speaker B: We could have narrowed it down to isn't it ability? And then worked from there. [00:26:56] Speaker A: I didn't want to get granularity into abilities. I was going, it was Tibbers. Tibbers is sort of a champion thing. You can control Tibbers? [00:27:04] Speaker B: Sure. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Multiple times. [00:27:05] Speaker B: Then that's an np. Well, it's not an NPC because you can control it. That's an ability. And yeah, I would agree that abilities in general are kind of. [00:27:13] Speaker A: It's a little too granular. [00:27:14] Speaker B: Too granular for this game. I would say limit it to champions, runes, items, NPCs, summoner spells. [00:27:23] Speaker A: Then I have my thing again. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Okay, let's start with Is it a champion? [00:27:30] Speaker A: No. [00:27:31] Speaker C: Is it an item? [00:27:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:27:33] Speaker B: Okay. Is an item. Is it an item that is available on Summoner's Rift? [00:27:37] Speaker A: No. [00:27:38] Speaker C: Is it a completed item? [00:27:40] Speaker A: Yes. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Okay. Completed item not available on Summoner's Rift. Is it an item that is available on Arambayhem? [00:27:47] Speaker A: Yes. [00:27:48] Speaker C: Okay. Have a quest. [00:27:50] Speaker A: No. [00:27:51] Speaker B: Does not have a quest. And it is a completed item. Right. That was the answer. [00:27:56] Speaker A: Yes. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Okay, just. Just clarifying because I'm just trying to remember. Does this item cost more than 2,000 gold? [00:28:05] Speaker A: No. [00:28:05] Speaker C: Okay. Can this item be purchased in the shop? [00:28:09] Speaker A: Yes. [00:28:10] Speaker B: Is this one of the starting items? I forget what the name is, but, like the Doran equivalents for Aram. [00:28:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Fuck. Now I have to remember what those are called. [00:28:20] Speaker C: Does it do or does it give ad? [00:28:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Does it have lifesteal? [00:28:26] Speaker A: Yes, I think so. Let me check. Yes. [00:28:29] Speaker B: Okay, well, I know which item it is. I just don't know what the fuck [00:28:32] Speaker C: it's Called Doran's Bow. [00:28:34] Speaker B: No, no, the Doran's items aren't on Mayhem. It's a different set. That's right. [00:28:38] Speaker C: We said it wasn't on Rift. [00:28:40] Speaker B: I do not remember what the Mayhem starter items are called. I never build them into any kind of Aram anymore. [00:28:46] Speaker A: They're very rare. Yeah. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Oh, God. I think it's an axe of some kind, but I can't fucking remember the names. Is it the ad LifeSteal and Health Starter? Axe, whatever it's called. [00:29:00] Speaker A: Yes. It's not an axe. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Okay, that was what, 11 points that time? [00:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. It's Guardian's Hammer. [00:29:07] Speaker B: Guardian. Guardian is the name of those things. But are they all Guardian or just the AD ones? [00:29:14] Speaker A: I know Hammer and blade are a thing. Let me check that. Mana, 1. Ap. 1. You. Also guardians. Guardian's orb. Yep. [00:29:22] Speaker B: And Guardian's Horn. Okay, they're all Guardians items. I don't know. No one builds those anymore. No, I knew the stat profile on it. All right. [00:29:33] Speaker A: So much better of an item now, too. Damn it. Oh, well. [00:29:36] Speaker B: Chris, go. It's your turn. [00:29:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I got one. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Okay. Might kick us off. [00:29:41] Speaker A: All right. Is this a champion? [00:29:43] Speaker B: No, not a champion. Is it an item? [00:29:47] Speaker C: Yes. [00:29:49] Speaker A: Is this available on Summoner's Rift? [00:29:51] Speaker C: No. [00:29:51] Speaker B: Is this available in Aram Mayhem? [00:29:54] Speaker C: Yes. [00:29:55] Speaker A: Is this a quest item? [00:29:56] Speaker B: Yes. Okay, that narrows it down. [00:29:59] Speaker A: I can only think of three. [00:30:01] Speaker B: Well, off the top of my head, the quest items include Wooglets, Void Immolation, the Spatula, and the Ultra Hydra. I'm probably forgetting one, but there's at least four, so I guess let's go. Does this item give ad? [00:30:18] Speaker C: Yes. [00:30:19] Speaker B: Okay, that narrows it down to two. [00:30:21] Speaker A: Is this the Ultra Hydra? [00:30:22] Speaker C: No. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Is this the Golden Spatula? [00:30:25] Speaker C: Yes. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Okay, we got it in eight. All right. [00:30:29] Speaker C: I was hoping to lead you down the asking what attributes it gave so I could answer. Does it give ad? Yes. Does it give ap. Yes. [00:30:38] Speaker B: That's fair. Unfortunately, us asking if it was a quest item narrowed it down too narrow too fast. [00:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:43] Speaker B: And now that I'm trying to look up my own thing, I think that's literally all of the quest items. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:50] Speaker B: Woo. Glitz, Void Immolation, Ultra Hydra, and Golden Spatula. [00:30:54] Speaker A: The other item that I'm thinking of doesn't exist anymore. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I think for the ones that are in Mayhem, at least that's literally it. Everything else would be like the prismatic items in Arena. Yeah. [00:31:04] Speaker A: And those don't appear on the thing, so I can't look them up. [00:31:07] Speaker B: They appear on the wiki. If you wanted to look them up. But we're not looking them up while we're guessing. That's cheating. [00:31:12] Speaker A: No, but if I'm trying to figure them out to give them the answer to. Think of the thing. I can't find them in the client. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Okay. I've got a thing. [00:31:20] Speaker A: Okay. You're up on first time, Krisko. [00:31:23] Speaker C: Is it a champion? [00:31:24] Speaker B: No. [00:31:24] Speaker A: Is it an npc? [00:31:26] Speaker B: No. [00:31:27] Speaker C: Is it an item? [00:31:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:29] Speaker A: Is it available in Summoner's Rift? [00:31:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:33] Speaker C: Is it available in any other game modes? [00:31:35] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:36] Speaker A: Is this item's base cost less than 1,000? [00:31:40] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:43] Speaker C: Can this item be purchased at the start of a game? [00:31:47] Speaker B: No. [00:31:48] Speaker A: Is this item a consumable? [00:31:50] Speaker B: No. I think every consumable that exists on Summoner's Rift could be purchased at the start of the game. By the way, Mike, I thought you [00:31:56] Speaker A: were locked out of them. [00:31:57] Speaker B: I don't think so. [00:31:58] Speaker A: I might be wrong. Yeah. [00:31:59] Speaker C: You can still buy potions and stuff, right? [00:32:01] Speaker B: I'm not sure, actually, now that he says it. You might be locked out of elixirs until. Yeah. Level nine required to purchase. I went on the wiki to check. My God. [00:32:09] Speaker C: Damn it. [00:32:10] Speaker A: I'm good at that. Okay. [00:32:14] Speaker C: Can this item only be obtained in the shop? [00:32:16] Speaker B: Explain the question. [00:32:18] Speaker C: I'm just. [00:32:19] Speaker A: It'd be a starter item, as in something that you get given for free. [00:32:24] Speaker B: Oh, you mean like World Atlas? [00:32:26] Speaker A: Yes. [00:32:27] Speaker C: Well, World Atlas, like Callista's spear, came up earlier. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Gotcha. No, it's not any of those types of things. [00:32:36] Speaker A: Is this item built into something else? [00:32:40] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:41] Speaker A: So it's not a starter item. It's not a thorns item. It's not. Oh. That does not leave many things not purchasable at the beginning. [00:32:51] Speaker B: All that really means is that it costs more than 500 gold and less than a thousand is what you've narrowed it down to. [00:32:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:58] Speaker A: But it does mean there's a lot [00:33:00] Speaker B: of items still in that. That bucket. [00:33:02] Speaker C: Does anything build into this item? [00:33:05] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Okay. That rules out those two. That rules out those two. Does this item have more than two stats? [00:33:16] Speaker B: No. [00:33:17] Speaker C: Does it give hp? [00:33:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:19] Speaker A: Does it give ability haste? [00:33:21] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:22] Speaker C: Is it Kindle? [00:33:23] Speaker A: I know it. Yeah. [00:33:25] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:26] Speaker C: All right. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Hey, I got a good round at least. [00:33:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:31] Speaker B: All right. The tallying these up. I think Mike is the clear winner, unfortunately. [00:33:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. [00:33:36] Speaker B: He's a cheater. [00:33:38] Speaker A: I. I tried to give as much as I could there without being dumb. [00:33:43] Speaker B: So you just dumb things in the first place. So you get winner. Asterisk. [00:33:47] Speaker A: I will take winter asterisk. All right, so I had several things that I would have, I would have asked that you were not around playing for Fantastic. [00:34:00] Speaker B: That's why he wanted to clarify at the beginning what your experience was. [00:34:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:03] Speaker B: Because otherwise he probably would have been picking, like, items that were removed from the game and stuff like that. [00:34:09] Speaker A: But that's just mean, not, not items. Something much bigger. Vile Maw was my thought. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Vile Maw was my thought. [00:34:17] Speaker C: Yeah. I have no idea what that is. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Yeah, Vilemos. It was really great. [00:34:22] Speaker B: Once upon a time, League of legends had a 3v3 map that was like Summoner's Rift, but designed for 3v3 instead of 5v5. And its version of Baron Nashor was a spider monster called Vile Maw. [00:34:34] Speaker C: Yes. And I, I, I also, like, every year it's always, oh, Tristed Treeline is coming back this year for, for sure. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Well, the annoying thing was Twisted Treeline was rebuilt. [00:34:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Vilemaw was the second version of Twisted Treeline. The first version had something else. I don't remember what it was called. [00:34:50] Speaker A: They explicitly tied Elise to Vilemaw. [00:34:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Anyway, Chrisco, thank you for joining and playing a game with us for episode 550. [00:34:59] Speaker C: Well, thank you so much. [00:35:00] Speaker B: For me, listeners, if you want the chance to join. When we do silly episodes like this, we ask the patrons first. This is the first time we've done it, but let's be real. We're coming up on the holidays. I guarantee this is going to happen again soon. Just because we're going to be busy and only one or two of us is going to be available. [00:35:16] Speaker A: This might be something we do either annually or on the like, big numbers. 600, 650, etc. Until we get to the like, milestones of like 750. I'm assuming those are when we're going to try and grab old hosts to to do another question thing. [00:35:31] Speaker B: Exactly. So reminder patreon.com the Fourwards podcast. And guys, just because we played a game this week doesn't mean you're off the hook on questions. We need more questions right into the four wards. Podcastmail.com or drop them in the question submission channel in the Discord. [00:35:49] Speaker A: Yeah, we do not have many in the tank right now. We have a couple. And thank you people for sending ideas for things that we're doing. We didn't take them this time because we had something fun to do, but give us, give us more ideas, Give us more questions and things. [00:36:04] Speaker B: Yeah, me and Mike are dumb. When we have two man episodes. We don't know what to do. So help us out. Help us shape the podcast to be what you want to listen to. [00:36:13] Speaker A: That is another thing. When we have these sort of downtime things, giving us feedback allows us to give more options on what you want. If you want us to be more granular because we're usually pretty generic on things, we can get more granular if enough people want us to do something like that. [00:36:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So till next week, this has been episode 550. I've been Jack Solman from my commending names and thank you for joining us, Chris. Go have a great night. [00:36:40] Speaker A: Good night everybody. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Thanks for listening to the four Wards Podcast. If you want to support the show directly, consider checking out our [email protected] the Four Wards Podcast. And of course send your questions to the Four Wards Podcastmail.com so we can [00:37:00] Speaker A: answer them live on the show. 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